Have I mentioned I hate Outlook 2007?

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Outlook Must DieHave I mentioned how much I hate Outlook 2007 lately?

  1. Daylight Savings Time: I knew that there would be issues with the Daylight Savings Times this year… but figured my calendar would be safe since I use Google Calendar to manage my appointments and whatnot. WRONG. Outlook 2007 has decided to be really, REALLY helpful and change the time of all of my appointments so that they appear an hour later. Never mind the fact that all of the events show the proper time in Google Calendar.
  2. Performance: I almost laughed typing that word. Performance and reliability are atrocious. Every time I shut down this infernal application and reopen it, I get this lovely error that says a ‘data file was closed improperly’ and that Outlook will need to scan it for corruption. Said scan takes hours. I have 4Gb RAM installed on my system. Every time I restart Outlook the same error occurs. I have no idea if my data is safe…
  3. Instant Search: I want you to go away and die. I know you want me to click you and download Windows Desktop Search so the two of you can play together, but I did that once, and the two of you brought my system to it’s knees. I want to turn you off. I should have an option to turn you off, but the only way I’ve seen to get rid of you is by installing Windows Desktop Search. Curse you.
  4. Internet Calendars: Did I mention Outlook 2007 screwed up my calendars? Thankfully Outlook 2007 can’t write to my online calendars, otherwise I would’ve been really screwed. With the DST update, all of the appointments in calendars I am subscribed to got modified locally. All appointments are now an hour later than they actually should be.

I want to like Outlook 2007, really. I am really, really trying. But this application is grating my last nerves. I’m hoping a decrease in RAM will help some. A coworker recently got a computer with Vista infected, err, pre-installed with only 1Gb RAM, so I am going to give him 2 1Gb DDR2-4200 sticks in exchange for his two 512Mb DDR-4200 sticks. I have a feeling, though, I may be downgrading soon. I can’t stand this application much longer.

63 thoughts on “Have I mentioned I hate Outlook 2007?

  1. Wyatt

    Since cutting outlook 2007 off all day and checking mail through my phone I’m not having the random display problems that I was having before. I think it’s time to downgrade.

  2. Wyatt

    Since cutting outlook 2007 off all day and checking mail through my phone I’m not having the random display problems that I was having before. I think it’s time to downgrade.

  3. Ellis

    I finally gave up and went back to Outlook 2003. Unless Microsoft offers a HUGE service pack to fix all of these issues (and get the bloody flagged e-mails out of my task list) then I’ll have to eventually look at some other office product going forward. (OpenOffice?)

    I’ll be stuck with Outlook so long as I’m tied to an Exchange server, but it won’t be Outlook 2007, at least not in it’s current form. The nicest thing I can say about it is I’m sure some other application sucks worse.

  4. Ellis

    I finally gave up and went back to Outlook 2003. Unless Microsoft offers a HUGE service pack to fix all of these issues (and get the bloody flagged e-mails out of my task list) then I’ll have to eventually look at some other office product going forward. (OpenOffice?)

    I’ll be stuck with Outlook so long as I’m tied to an Exchange server, but it won’t be Outlook 2007, at least not in it’s current form. The nicest thing I can say about it is I’m sure some other application sucks worse.

  5. Anton Baxter

    What’s most stupid is setting ‘Calibri’ as the default font for writing e-mails.
    Developers of Outlook, Hello, NOT ALL MAIL RECIPIENTS HAVE ‘CALIBRI’.

  6. Anton Baxter

    What’s most stupid is setting ‘Calibri’ as the default font for writing e-mails.
    Developers of Outlook, Hello, NOT ALL MAIL RECIPIENTS HAVE ‘CALIBRI’.

  7. Mark

    All points agreed. Using Outlook makes me want to hit someone. Preferably someone who worked on it.

  8. Mark

    All points agreed. Using Outlook makes me want to hit someone. Preferably someone who worked on it.

  9. abqaussie

    Agreed.
    One example:
    Open Outlook
    Open Calendar, set to full week view
    Open task manager so you can watch the Processor usage of the Outlook process.
    MOUSE OVER the calendar and watch processor usage leap to 20%, even 50%. On a 3ghz P4 with HT turned on.
    No biggie if the system isn’t doing anything, but if anything else is stressing the proc a bit, outlook drags the whole system to its knees. 2003 didn’t do this.
    We noticed this on a variety of machines within 20 minutes of updating. Where is MS Quality Control? Testing? Anyone?

  10. @abqaussie – I’ve noticed the same thing. Outlook 2007 sucks royally. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve wanted to uninstall this abomination since I upgraded from Outlook 2003. Unfortunately, I’ve had to keep it on my machine. Not using Web (ical) Calendars has helped, but that was one of the main things I liked about the new version. Hopefully Microsoft will address some of the serious flaws in this release.

    I can’t help but feel like I’m having to pay for the privilege of beta-testing this abomination for Microsoft.

  11. abqaussie

    Agreed.
    One example:
    Open Outlook
    Open Calendar, set to full week view
    Open task manager so you can watch the Processor usage of the Outlook process.
    MOUSE OVER the calendar and watch processor usage leap to 20%, even 50%. On a 3ghz P4 with HT turned on.
    No biggie if the system isn’t doing anything, but if anything else is stressing the proc a bit, outlook drags the whole system to its knees. 2003 didn’t do this.
    We noticed this on a variety of machines within 20 minutes of updating. Where is MS Quality Control? Testing? Anyone?

  12. abqaussie

    Ironically I DID beta test it at home on a spare machine, using only POP3. And posted feedback about my experience to MS.
    The performance problems I see (excluding reading from Exchange stores and PST issues) were there then and worse. So while it has improved it certainly hasn’t been fixed in any way. So much for the usefulness of Beta.

  13. @abqaussie – I’ve noticed the same thing. Outlook 2007 sucks royally. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve wanted to uninstall this abomination since I upgraded from Outlook 2003. Unfortunately, I’ve had to keep it on my machine. Not using Web (ical) Calendars has helped, but that was one of the main things I liked about the new version. Hopefully Microsoft will address some of the serious flaws in this release.

    I can’t help but feel like I’m having to pay for the privilege of beta-testing this abomination for Microsoft.

  14. abqaussie

    Ironically I DID beta test it at home on a spare machine, using only POP3. And posted feedback about my experience to MS.
    The performance problems I see (excluding reading from Exchange stores and PST issues) were there then and worse. So while it has improved it certainly hasn’t been fixed in any way. So much for the usefulness of Beta.

  15. jane

    My problem with it – and I’m literally just browsing the web to find if it’s just me who feels this way – is the interface. The fonts, the shininess – everything. I’ve customised myself to tears but I still can’t be getting on with it. It’s starting to make me feel autistic. I’m really struggling.

  16. Unfortunately… the fonts, the shininess is a sign of things to come from Microsoft. Those “enhancements” are a big part of Vista. :

    Have you considered getting a Mac? :)

  17. abqaussie

    I’ll confess I felt that way for the first week, but I am getting used to it. I can’t say I like OL2007 but I can do just about everything I used to do in Outlook 2003 without wanting to hurl my machine out the window every 5 minutes. More like once an hour. And it only takes 2x the computing power and twice as long to do it.
    Word 2007 however makes me feel as autistic as you apparently.

  18. jane

    I have a mac at home and don’t go anywhere near Outlook – at work though, I’m stuck with a PC and the 2007 package. And my growing inability to get anything done. It feels like a medical condition! My inability to process the visual interface is preventing me from using the software effectively (it feels like a language I can’t speak), yet my whole job depends on it. I can hardly read emails… it all feels wrong. It’s awful :-(

    Anyway, better get used to it I guess!

  19. jane

    My problem with it – and I’m literally just browsing the web to find if it’s just me who feels this way – is the interface. The fonts, the shininess – everything. I’ve customised myself to tears but I still can’t be getting on with it. It’s starting to make me feel autistic. I’m really struggling.

  20. Unfortunately… the fonts, the shininess is a sign of things to come from Microsoft. Those “enhancements” are a big part of Vista. :\

    Have you considered getting a Mac? :)

  21. abqaussie

    I’ll confess I felt that way for the first week, but I am getting used to it. I can’t say I like OL2007 but I can do just about everything I used to do in Outlook 2003 without wanting to hurl my machine out the window every 5 minutes. More like once an hour. And it only takes 2x the computing power and twice as long to do it.
    Word 2007 however makes me feel as autistic as you apparently.

  22. jane

    I have a mac at home and don’t go anywhere near Outlook – at work though, I’m stuck with a PC and the 2007 package. And my growing inability to get anything done. It feels like a medical condition! My inability to process the visual interface is preventing me from using the software effectively (it feels like a language I can’t speak), yet my whole job depends on it. I can hardly read emails… it all feels wrong. It’s awful :-(

    Anyway, better get used to it I guess!

  23. Tim Fuchs

    this post. That was a ‘funny’ thing. We used Time Zone Data Update Tool for Microsoft Office Outlook on those machines. Luckiliy it happend on a small number of computers so we were able to fix that right in place. Performance. Oh, yes. That’s the deal. It is recommended for users to split the huge PST files. And we did that. That was hard, as the splitting took much excess work. But the real problem was that some users had a small PST with the size of about a couple of hundreds of megabytes. So we siced the PST onto very small pieces. A nightmare for a user.
    They continued experiencing delays when opening the messages. The complete trouble was the with users that need work with cross-referenced correspondence and need to re-open old messages, then need to open new and so on. And each such opening caused the delay. At last, Microsoft released the update that patches the mspst32.dll library and the Outlook.exe. I installed it on several computers that I control on my own because it they are just a few steps away from my workplace. But I have no clue how to manage that now! How can I install this patch for other users? I know that’s possible to do that via GPO and assign the patch to the specified user group. But the bad thing is that it doesn’t work for me. I have to setup it exclusively and to check more parameters of the user environment. Not all our users use Outlook 2007 and what’s more problematic, not all experience the trouble. And the gold rule: if it works, don’t patch it. I need your expertise. How to manage their desktops? Currently what I got from googling is the link to the software that supposedly can arrange desktop management and execute patching after checking the user environment properties. I haven’t worked with such tools before. If you have an experience, would you please review the link and say what you think?
    By the way with that ‘data file was closed improperly’ message you recieve, try checking if you use Word as the default editor for creating your messages. It looks like if you have opened both your Outlook with opened message that you are writing and the Word where you type your document separately from what you are typing in your Outlook, the winword.exe and outlook.exe images will not be closed when you will close applications. Then, if you will terminate the Outlook process, you will get this ‘data file was closed improperly’ message when you will start the Outlook application again.

  24. Tim Fuchs

    Chris, in general I agree, there are problems with the Outlook 2007. Well although I wouldn’t tell I hate Outlook and treat it like an awful creature that I antipathize, I will say that it still rises some questions. No doubts. The Daylight Saving transition was the event that kicked up a row. Nice that we were able to tackle this ‘thing’ up. But the remembrances are clear. I remember several of my users had missed the appointments and got problems with the proccess of document circulation. Windows adjusted clocks to times in a row. Those users got their clocks shifted for a one hour more. Pretty much like in this post. That was a ‘funny’ thing. We used Time Zone Data Update Tool for Microsoft Office Outlook on those machines. Luckiliy it happend on a small number of computers so we were able to fix that right in place. Performance. Oh, yes. That’s the deal. It is recommended for users to split the huge PST files. And we did that. That was hard, as the splitting took much excess work. But the real problem was that some users had a small PST with the size of about a couple of hundreds of megabytes. So we siced the PST onto very small pieces. A nightmare for a user.
    They continued experiencing delays when opening the messages. The complete trouble was the with users that need work with cross-referenced correspondence and need to re-open old messages, then need to open new and so on. And each such opening caused the delay. At last, Microsoft released the update that patches the mspst32.dll library and the Outlook.exe. I installed it on several computers that I control on my own because it they are just a few steps away from my workplace. But I have no clue how to manage that now! How can I install this patch for other users? I know that’s possible to do that via GPO and assign the patch to the specified user group. But the bad thing is that it doesn’t work for me. I have to setup it exclusively and to check more parameters of the user environment. Not all our users use Outlook 2007 and what’s more problematic, not all experience the trouble. And the gold rule: if it works, don’t patch it. I need your expertise. How to manage their desktops? Currently what I got from googling is the link to the software that supposedly can arrange desktop management and execute patching after checking the user environment properties. I haven’t worked with such tools before. If you have an experience, would you please review the link and say what you think?
    By the way with that ‘data file was closed improperly’ message you recieve, try checking if you use Word as the default editor for creating your messages. It looks like if you have opened both your Outlook with opened message that you are writing and the Word where you type your document separately from what you are typing in your Outlook, the winword.exe and outlook.exe images will not be closed when you will close applications. Then, if you will terminate the Outlook process, you will get this ‘data file was closed improperly’ message when you will start the Outlook application again.

  25. Reactor

    Um, I was just searching and came across this blog and wondered… if you have issues with daylight saving, why not disable it in the options?

  26. Reactor

    Um, I was just searching and came across this blog and wondered… if you have issues with daylight saving, why not disable it in the options?

  27. Randy Mennie

    After spending several hours trying to format a large term paper using Word 2007, I decided to Google “I Hate Office 2007”, and I landed here.

    Well, misery definitely likes company. My girlfriend is sure that I have set a Guinness World Record for longest string of profanity uttered without causing spontaneous human combustion.

    I cannot believe that Microsoft can dump this concoction of rotting snake bile on the planet with complete immunity. I think the EULA that Bill Gates hides behind while counting his quadrillion dollars in his snotty little hands, should be ruled illegal by SOME court SOMEWHERE!

    No other industry has been allowed to dump their product on the general public and not be held accountable for the carnage left behind. If a car manufacturer put a new model on the market in which 90% of them came to a grinding halt in traffic for no apparent reason, or had a dashlight that once a week flashed “Go back to your car dealer and pick up a box of new parts to replace the defective parts that came with your car. This car will not start until you do”, there would be public insurrection.

    ….oh…wait! I’ve calmed down a bit….Thanks for letting me vent.

    bye
    Randy

  28. Randy Mennie

    After spending several hours trying to format a large term paper using Word 2007, I decided to Google “I Hate Office 2007”, and I landed here.

    Well, misery definitely likes company. My girlfriend is sure that I have set a Guinness World Record for longest string of profanity uttered without causing spontaneous human combustion.

    I cannot believe that Microsoft can dump this concoction of rotting snake bile on the planet with complete immunity. I think the EULA that Bill Gates hides behind while counting his quadrillion dollars in his snotty little hands, should be ruled illegal by SOME court SOMEWHERE!

    No other industry has been allowed to dump their product on the general public and not be held accountable for the carnage left behind. If a car manufacturer put a new model on the market in which 90% of them came to a grinding halt in traffic for no apparent reason, or had a dashlight that once a week flashed “Go back to your car dealer and pick up a box of new parts to replace the defective parts that came with your car. This car will not start until you do”, there would be public insurrection.

    ….oh…wait! I’ve calmed down a bit….Thanks for letting me vent.

    bye
    Randy

  29. Bobo

    I too hate Office 2007. The computers at my school all have it, and the interface and performance absolutely suck. Thankfully, Office 2003 is still on the computers as well (for now, at least).

    As for my own computer, I’ve stuck with Office XP since 2002.

  30. Bobo

    I too hate Office 2007. The computers at my school all have it, and the interface and performance absolutely suck. Thankfully, Office 2003 is still on the computers as well (for now, at least).

    As for my own computer, I’ve stuck with Office XP since 2002.

  31. abelnewt

    I’m suffering through a forced upgrade to Office 2007 at work. I’m glad there are other people out there like me.

    Jane, I totally agree with the way you feel. I’ve been able to use Windows Classic theme to escape the offensive shininess until today. Now it feels like my senses are under assault. There’s just way too much useless distractions… the glare is blinding.

    I’ve tried customizations to make things as efficient, categorized, accessible, and color-coded as they were, but to no avail. I can’t work or even think.

    When it seems like I’m getting used to it, I notice some action now takes twice as long to process as it did before and my blood begins to boil. Opening messages, browsing my calendar, even moving my mouse past vast useless expanses of Ribbon seems to take forever. Not to mention the “Desktop Search” that now takes 2 hours to index my email for quick search, where before using the 3rd party tool Lookout took only 10 minutes.

    I talked to tech support about rolling back, but they denied my request. I’ve even considered quitting my job. I hope it doesn’t come to that.

  32. abelnewt

    (Also, this website is fairly beautiful, but the comment system should allow double-newlines).

  33. abelnewt

    I’m suffering through a forced upgrade to Office 2007 at work. I’m glad there are other people out there like me.

    Jane, I totally agree with the way you feel. I’ve been able to use Windows Classic theme to escape the offensive shininess until today. Now it feels like my senses are under assault. There’s just way too much useless distractions… the glare is blinding.

    I’ve tried customizations to make things as efficient, categorized, accessible, and color-coded as they were, but to no avail. I can’t work or even think.

    When it seems like I’m getting used to it, I notice some action now takes twice as long to process as it did before and my blood begins to boil. Opening messages, browsing my calendar, even moving my mouse past vast useless expanses of Ribbon seems to take forever. Not to mention the “Desktop Search” that now takes 2 hours to index my email for quick search, where before using the 3rd party tool Lookout took only 10 minutes.

    I talked to tech support about rolling back, but they denied my request. I’ve even considered quitting my job. I hope it doesn’t come to that.

  34. abelnewt

    (Also, this website is fairly beautiful, but the comment system should allow double-newlines).

  35. abqaussie

    Almost a year later, new machine. Dual core 2.4GHZ, 2 GB of RAM. Outlook 2007 is still miserable. Horrible. Slow. Buggy. Still has rendering issues within the UI.

    Opening a link from within the app takes 30 seconds. A link. In an email. Which opens a browser. OL2003 on my old PIII 766 at home takes 10 seconds. And it can barely run Windows.

    Between Vista and OL2007 I am pretty much ready to switch OSes.

    I bought three new home computers this year. All of them with XP and OL 2003. And I’m perfectly happy.

    Brave new world, where art thou?

  36. abqaussie

    Almost a year later, new machine. Dual core 2.4GHZ, 2 GB of RAM. Outlook 2007 is still miserable. Horrible. Slow. Buggy. Still has rendering issues within the UI.

    Opening a link from within the app takes 30 seconds. A link. In an email. Which opens a browser. OL2003 on my old PIII 766 at home takes 10 seconds. And it can barely run Windows.

    Between Vista and OL2007 I am pretty much ready to switch OSes.

    I bought three new home computers this year. All of them with XP and OL 2003. And I’m perfectly happy.

    Brave new world, where art thou?

  37. Blueskyswan

    I upgraded from Office 2003 to 2007, because I primarily wanted the 2007 version of Powerpoint. But I’m not enjoying Office 2007. In Outlook 2007, I cannot save images from emails. If I right click an image in an email, I only get an option to copy it, no ‘save as’ option, as there usually is in Outlook 2003. So I chose to copy the image, it was the only option available, but when I tried to paste that into Irfanview…, bup-bow. It said no way. It’s ridiculous! So I’ve been searching for a solution on the net, and only finding other people with the same complaint, and other people telling them the way Outlook and Word in 2007 work forbids it. I can’t believe it. I did find one way around it tonight……. I saved the email with the image I wanted, then chose to open it with Word and the image was successfully displayed. In Word I was able to successfully right click, copy the image, and then paste it into my Irfanview program, without Irfanview rejecting it. From THERE I could at long last save the image I wanted to my files as a jpg. Bloody hell. What a runaround, everytime I want to save an image. Sigh. I have now been investigating getting rid of Office 2007, and going back to 2003, just for the lack of dramas. I much prefer the user interface of 2003.

    Thing is I still want the 2007 version of Powerpoint…… I wanted to do a custom install of Office 2007 originally, installing only Powerpoint, but it wouldn’t let me. So. Do you think it would be possible, to go to add/remove programs, choose change, and delete everything from Office 2007, BUT for Powerpoint. Then install Office 2003, choosing to ONLY install Word and Outlook (as that’s all i want) from Office 2003, and still end up with my Powerpoint 2007???? I’d appreciate any opinions or feedback about my idea before I go ahead and try it. I might be just dreamin here, but, it seems to make logical sense to me, lol.
    thanks in advance.

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